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Re: Letting go

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Fleur wrote: Thu May 10, 2018 10:54 pm
Also lovely that your son feels improvement using WOE/IF - this year, maybe some people won't immediately recognise him at Convention
Hey Fleur! It's me again. I wanted to comment on this above that you wrote. SOME DID NOT RECOGNIZE HIM! :lol: He shared this with me when he got home.

Also, as MY big wedding looms (but how lovely was the Harry/Meghan wedding, eh? :D ), I bravely went out online just now and began to look at hats and then at dresses. SO BLOODY HARD for me!!! But the time grows nearer every day (early July!! :o ), and so I'm going to put my big girl's pants on and forge ahead! I promise to give you a blow by blow description of it. I have a Catherine's, a Lane Bryant's, an Avenue, and several other brick and mortar shops nearby plus a big mall that have plus sizes. I should be able to find one nice dress. AND A HAT, too! I noticed all the adorable hats worn by the Harry/Meghan attendees. I don't know if that's strictly an English thing or even a trendy thing, but I like it! And I want a dress with a loose billowy jacket, too. We'll see what I come up with.

I really appreciate you walking with me through this. I really need the support. Oh, I also want a nice new pair of simple black pumps, too. And maybe some new jewelry to boot. AND THOSE EARRINGS! I need to get those right away so I can heal up before the wedding. Just simple "training studs" to start with to open those holes back up. They don't have to match anything, at least not yet; I just want to make sure they are healed and with no infections. I also need to get the dress, though, so I can match up the rest of the outfit. I do want to be there at the wedding with my grandson and his lovely wife.

OK...for real this time! Goodnight to you! :mrgreen:

Honeybera Zzz!!!
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Re: Letting go

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Hello Honeybera


Good morning ( just after 7am here)

Thank you for sharing about finding somewhat similar eating folk online. I really hope you find a truly kindred soul with whom you can connect

Great to know you are doing so much better physically. I agree that gardening is wonderful exercise

Nice that you have several places to shop for wedding outfit. Am certain you'll soon find exactly what you want

I've met a few people who were plump when I first knew them who slimmed so that I didn't recognise them - can understand how your son might feel a bit like great but it really is "me" - or whatever

May stores stock everything needed for both you and garden


Much caring
Onward to a safe community for all people in which to thrive ~ gentle hugs [if okay] ~ Fleur
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Re: Letting go

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I come back here, hat in hand, frightened, scared, and belittled. I just went over to reddit on a KETO chat line. All youngsters (18-25 or so) speaking supposedly on keto, but instead speaking of religion and porn AND how Keto is only a fad/hot trend. I feel like no one else in the world is doing a STRICT Keto/IF - NO ONE! My friend on MFP just quit on me because she is "too busy" to do keto. I can't turn to the church b/c I'm not religious and that would be a LIE to say that I am. But this isolation is killing me. :roll:

But I am old. So perhaps going to the Senior Center would be a good idea. I won't push keto/IF, but there go the luncheons! DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT GETTING HEALTHY AGAIN????!!!! I AM SOOOOOO FRUSTRATED!!! DS and I are both living proof that this works! I know how religious zealots must feel, knowing that they have the "answer", but no one is listening. But this is PROOF of what's true, and it's right before my eyes because my huge belly (and I mean H-U-G-E!!) is melting away and so are the fat pads that were on my face! My NSV this morning was to look in the mirror and see a MUCH younger (and unwrinkled! due to autophagy) face looking back at me, a face I recognized as myself YEARS AGO!! WOW! Am I the only one finding this miracle?? I feel both enraptured and totally alone, all at the same time. This does NOT feel like a fad or a trend. I want to do this forever!!

I'm going to try to write to Butter Bob Briggs and see if he will hook me up with some support, like a WOE buddy. He understands. He's done this already - 150 lbs worth of it! I don't give a damn about those /reddit idiots. "Let them eat cake!", so to speak. If I have to do it alone, so be it. I WILL! But having a friend would be nice, too. I just don't know where to find one. And being autistic does NOT help! :cry:

I am grateful beyond measure that I still can come here. It's bringing tears of the utmost gratitude to my eyes as I write this.
♥♥THANK YOU, MY DEAR FRIENDS!♥♥ You are the calm in this ocean of torment, and you always have been. Otherwise, I am starkly alone in this most important endeavor of my life!

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Re: Letting go

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Hello Honeybera


Oh, oh. Oh .... I'm sooo sorry that you continue to feel isolated. My heart aches for you my friend. Happy you feel welcome here. If I were around the corner, I'd ask if we could visit .... As it is, please know you are in my thoughts

Although I'm not doing keto, I do care to be healthy. Here's hoping Butter Bob can assist .... Going to Senior group could be useful as a connection. I believe we were designed to be sociable people. I take my food with me to meetings. No-one is bothered when I explain why I cannot eat certain things. Maybe you could take a broth or other allowable beverage to enjoy as they have lunch, cups of tea, etc?

You're right about being uncomfortable re the chat group - I would be also - doubt very much that it has to do with autism, although I understand that is a potential difficulty

Way to go regarding younger looking skin and seeing yourself returning to capabilities ; they are important for your wellbeing. Perhaps noting changes on your calendar might be useful as reminder of progress? Please forgive me if I'm repeating myself

Your son is also living proof of how well the keto/if lifestyle is beneficial for the pair of you

Wishing you very well in all respects


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Re: Letting go

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Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 am Oh, oh. Oh .... I'm sooo sorry that you continue to feel isolated. My heart aches for you my friend. Happy you feel welcome here. If I were around the corner, I'd ask if we could visit .... As it is, please know you are in my thoughts
Oh Fleur, thank you from the bottom of my heart!!! I would love to share a cuppa with you, too. :)

I've decided to try voluntary visits to shut-ins through Catholic Charities and see how that goes. I was signed up awhile back, but never went. I think I need to now, just to get out of this house somewhat. I still have LOTS to do here as well, like cleaning up my house and gardening. I could take some fresh veggies from my garden to the "shut-ins". I might even try the Senior Center. Although I'm ok on my Keto/IF, I'm frightfully alone and "shut-in" myself on a voluntary basis. If I am perfectly fine health-wise and have a car, why should I not get out there a bit? Oh, wait. I know. Fear of rejection?

I just keep crying. Losing my friend on MFP has really upset me, and the debacle on /reddit didn't help, either. At least my friend on MFP wasn't harsh with me, but she's definitely on a different (and much more lenient) path than mine.

======================(5pm Wed.)

Life is brighter today (thank heavens!!)...working out in the garden with DS. My goodness, he is SO STRONG! I could not move those HUGE sacks of potting mix, while instead he simply picked them up one at a time and TOSSED them across the yard into my raised beds. I'm so lucky to have him!!!

He also hefted that big old solid cement ornamental birdbath out of the garage and set it up right outside of my WOW. It is BIG! I believe it should hold at least 10 lbs. of wild bird seed. I previously hacked out all of the weeds from the designated area of its final placement and now he's set it up solidly in the dirt. Next step: spread straw around it so no weeds grow back. ♥♥I LOVE MY YARD!!!♥♥ :mrgreen:

I need to get out there now and fill some 30 gallon pots with the mix in RB#3 and plant my poor bare root Yellow Anne raspberries. They are in my bathroom in a big box with wetted newspaper around them and are already trying to send up green shoots. I need to give them a better place to live! :P NOW!! The first ones I got (some weeks before these arrived) rallied from their apparently dormant state and are all three growing like crazy!! I believe that there are 3 in this new batch as well, making me the proud owner of 6 Yellow Anne raspberries. I originally wanted to buy just ONE REDraspberry plant, but now have ended up with 6 Yellow ones! :lol: Life is strange that way.

This is what Stark Bros. nursery has to say about them (you can Google image them, too - they look astounding!):
This sunshine-colored fruit has a unique flavor with hints of apricot. These large, sweet, firm berries will liven up tarts, jams and salads. They also freeze well. The hardy and productive plant bears in the first year. Cold-hardy and heat-tolerant.
I will be freezing them for sure, as well as eating them fresh. I anticipate a sort of bumper crop (we'll see...), but if they produce too many "large, sweet" yellow raspberries for me to eat, there's always the health food store who will happily buy them from me. But I'd better get out there NOW with my shovel and start filling my 30 gallon Smart Pot for the new Anne's to go into. This is FUN!! :mrgreen:

Oh, and I believe I want a light jacket-dress outfit for the July wedding as I went "online shopping" last night. Now is the time to go see what I like at the shops. Once I know what dress I will have, then I'll buy the shoes and hat and jewelry to go with it, and then I'm set. DS confidently said he'll braid my long hair for me, so then I don't even need to cut it for the wedding. WHEW!! :mrgreen: We're going to practice. :? :ugeek: :!:

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Re: Letting go

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Wowee! 3 hours out in the backyard/garden area!! I can REALLY see a LOT of improvement back there! I wasn't able to plant my Anne's yet, but the entire yard is so much more ready for them and all the rest to go in. I have enough room to reposition my strawberry planters (already full and thriving) over to the much more suitable-for-strawberries EAST side of the house, so they only get morning sun and afternoon sun until approx. 1pm. That way when it hits 90ºF and WAY WAY WAY above in the next few months (like 110ºF in the shade!! :oops: ), they will be just fine. Also in the wintertime they will have the heat of the house to protect them when it gets chilly. It never really gets too cold here, right around 32ºF is about the worst, so just the house warmth right next to them should be plenty. That spot will be the strawberries (and avocados) permanent homes.

Right now it was full of those nasty whippy weeds + black widows, but DS and I have managed to clear about 30' along the house so far. The earth underneath is bare! Now all I have to do is keep an eye out for any lingering whippy weeds and/or black widows. We have the cutest lizards out there that have lowered the black widow risk, bless them. So all the other cooties are welcome to stay on unencumbered as lizard food. :lol:
Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 amGoing to Senior group could be useful as a connection. I believe we were designed to be sociable people. I take my food with me to meetings. No-one is bothered when I explain why I cannot eat certain things. Maybe you could take a broth or other allowable beverage to enjoy as they have lunch, cups of tea, etc?
I'm kind of warming up to that idea of being more sociable. I can drink tea or coffee or water or a diet soft drink, and fasting is the easiest of all! :lol: No food whatsoever! I could enjoy the conversation rather than eat. I don't even need to explain why. I think that "no thanks" would suffice. If pressed, "I'm just not hungry." should do it. It wouldn't be a lie.
Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 amYou're right about being uncomfortable re the chat group - I would be also - doubt very much that it has to do with autism, although I understand that is a potential difficulty
Oh Fleur, it was AWFUL! :roll: :cry: I was upset enough as it was, having lost my MFP friend. These folks were clannish and just plain mean. I'm not used to that. I'm just glad that I've decided not to go back on there. They weren't even discussing their Ketogenic lifestyles. Just a bunch of teens and young adults being incredibly mean and snarky. I can do better.
Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 amWay to go regarding younger looking skin and seeing yourself returning to capabilities ; they are important for your wellbeing. Perhaps noting changes on your calendar might be useful as reminder of progress? Please forgive me if I'm repeating myself
The protein-related skin repair (so no "tummy tuck" after the weight loss is necessary!! YAY!) is called autophagy [Ah TOF ah gee]- HALLELUJAH!!! I'm using my calendar for gardening goals and my EYES for my reminder of progress. ;) Those NSVs are a wonderful DAILY affirmation of my progress and I am eternally thankful for it. :mrgreen: I keep track of my gardening so that I can remember the EXACT DAY that I planted this or that and when I watered so I don't forget (like I am wont to do sometimes); it helps me so that I don't neglect my duties to my little plant friends out there counting on me (and so that last summer's depression and total neglect of my garden/trees NEVER happens again!!) :cry: :roll:
Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 amYour son is also living proof of how well the keto/if lifestyle is beneficial for the pair of you
Yes, he is! But at only 31, he was only starting down a dangerous path that I had followed blindly decades before. During each of my 3 pregnancies the doctors told me blithely and briefly that I had preeclampsia AND "gestational diabetes", but not to worry: it goes away after the birth. :shock:
Certain conditions, such as diabetes or preeclampsia (a condition in pregnancy that causes high blood pressure), can raise the risk for stillbirth.

korin miller, SELF, "NHL Star Erik Karlsson and His Wife Lost Their Son a Month Before He Was Due," 22 Mar. 2018
I guess I got lucky all 3 times! :roll: The problem was that I was headed towards diabetes, even way back then!

Plus I'm studying how the hormone Cortisol, the "stress hormone", stimulates insulin, the "fat storing hormone"...and so when I was ridiculed and called Pot Belly Nellie by MD even as a child, I was showing absolute symptoms of Insulin Resistance and pre-diabetes...AS A CHILD, for Pete's sake! Getting the crap beaten out of me every single day was indeed "stress producing", hence stimulating cortisol and then insulin. If I was running from some threat (fight or flight) on a short-term basis, cortisol works by resisting insulin since I would be needing fat to be released to my muscles rather than storage of fat. BUT when it's merely long-term psychological stress, there is no need for fight or flight, and according to Dr. Jason Fung's book, The Obesity Code,
"...they do not result in the vigorous physical exertion needed to burn off the blood glucose. Under conditions of chronic stress, glucose levels remain high and there is no resolution to the stressor. Our blood glucose can remain elevated for months, triggering the release of insulin. Chronically elevated cortisol leads to increased insulin levels - as demonstrated by several studies...cortisol levels increased with self-perceived stress levels [are] strongly linked to increased levels of both glucose and insulin. Since insulin is the major driver of obesity, it should be no surprise that both body mass index and abdominal obesity increased."
So thereby, MY self-perceived stress from the daily physical and mental abuse I suffered at MD's hands drove my cortisol levels to be high as a kite, even as a child, causing me to have a small pot belly, bringing on more ridicule from my own mother. She also razzed me constantly about "being fat", but I wasn't "fat". I was a compulsive overeater even as a kid, I believe as a coping mechanism, however I was also very athletic, a dancer, and an acrobat, so I wasn't really heavy at all.

And she also called me names as she beat me, like "UGLY!" and "STUPID!", but I realize now that it had nothing whatsoever to do with me. I was neither ugly nor stupid, not by a long shot! In fact, I was an adorable and quite gifted child with an eidetic memory who loved to read books and sing and recite, but MD was a frustrated 17 yr. old teeny-bopper with a kid, a child with a child, and I got the worst of it.

I can still recite one of the poems: "I eat my peas with honey. I've done it all my life. It may taste kind of funny, but it keeps them on my knife." :lol: Really cute when done by a wide-eyed blonde toddler of 2 or 3 yrs. old. When speaking to MD now, she somehow assumes that I've forgotten everything, but my eidetic memory, while fading slightly at my age, still remembers it all in pictures, like an old movie that plays in my head. Both a blessing and a curse, I can assure you!

But DS has listened, has watched what I have done, seen the results, and has adopted this as his own...and his Insulin Resistant belly (in a size 3x T-shirt and now down to a 1x - in only 4 months!!!) is nearly gone! His legs are much smaller now (no fat on them anymore, just solid muscle) and he says he feels MUCH BETTER! I am so proud of him and so happy for him. Thank heavens he's got this knowledge at this age and now as it comes out to the public. He was truly heading for full blown T2D in the next couple of decades. No one ate worse junk than he did, and I'm the one who bought it for him. :oops: But I take solace in knowing that it was also my GOOD example that turned his thinking around. :mrgreen:
Fleur wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 5:41 amAlthough I'm not doing keto, I do care to be healthy. Here's hoping Butter Bob can assist ....
Yes! Butter Bob's catch phrase is Butter Makes Your Pants Fall Off, and it is actually happening to DS! He finally found an old adjustable belt when he went past the last notch on his old belt (that was TIGHT before Keto! :lol: ) to hold his horribly baggy pants up.

And the best part is, here it is, 9pm, I've been out working hard in the yard for over 5 hours today, plus I did up all the dishes in the kitchen, sideboards spotless and all, before I did my yard work, and my hunger level is "MEH." I'm not ravishingly hungry despite it being a full 24-hr. fast. And that is a blooming miracle!! I had a Bulletproof coffee at about 5 pm (as I took a break and sat down to rest after some pretty strenuous gardening work for a couple of hours and began to write to you). Bulletproof coffee my way (ZERO net carbs/high fat) = approx. 400 calories, if you count calories (I don't), and it's 9 pm after a good workout, and I'm not starving. I could eat...I guess. Meh.

That keeps amazing me! How can I not be starving to death after such a day? But it's true. I have to go eat now: tonight's dinner: rotisseried tri-tip (thanks to DS - and he really getting good at it!) + whatever cooked veggie I can dig up (zucchini? Broccoli?) + maybe a small salad, and a Keto muffin for dessert (this week's muffin flavor: Banana/Maple/Black Walnut! SO GOOD!) - I am going to TRY, TRY AGAIN to get to sleep some NORMAL hours. I'm missing way too much of my gorgeous weather for gardening (mid-70s - lower 80s: PERFECT!) because I'm sleeping through it, but but BUT next week starts the 90ºF stuff and even higher as we slide into June...and then J-U-L-Y, when the average daily temp. is WELL OVER 100ºF!!! :oops: :roll: :? Then it is just all about make sure everything is watered, so I have to kind of hurry now to get the garden IN. The heat starts next Monday, and only because tomorrow night it's going to rain (probably only a little, but just enough to have to shelter my tools in the garage). May rain is VERY rare here, but oh well.

Once that heat hits (and it will), I will begin my inside work, and there's plenty of it! And get ready for the wedding. :mrgreen: So it all works out. I want my kitchen back (it's so disorganized!) and I want my kitchen table to sit at, and I want my cookbook done. I also want to LEARN HOW to operate all my kitchen "tools", like my KitchenAid stand mixer which I've never used yet. It is unpacked. After sitting 17 yrs. in a box! Brand new. <shaking my head at the lunacy of that!> BUT it's unpacked now and sitting on the sideboard next to my Veggie Bullet (which will make Zoodles, "zucchini noodles" as a substitute for pasta noodles and I'll have a yard FULL of zucchini!) and my Breville food processor (that powerful gadget that I've only used ONCE so far). I have a recipe for Keto Vanilla Ice Cream, too, which I'm dying to try using my KA stand mixer and my Cuisinart Ice Cream maker. The recipe is somewhere [?], my freezers are still pretty full (to chill/freeze the ice cream machine insert), and I don't know how to use my stand mixer yet. :roll: I'll bet those high temps. this summer should encourage me to make something yummy...but it's only a goal at this time. But imagine...a Brownie style keto almond muffin crumbled over that vanilla ice cream (and it's the real deal, too, made with eggs and heavy whipping cream, both part of a Keto diet). OMG, I think I just got hungry! :lol:

And sleepy, too. It's now 3:30am (when did that sneak up on me????) and I'm off to bed. Pleasant dreams to you, my friend. :mrgreen:

Honeybera

BTW, miraculously I have 4 Yellow Monster peppers and 3 (so far) Etiuda peppers (orange) popping their heads up under the grow lights waiting to be planted - but the miracle is that these are from 2015 seeds! I was NOT sure that they'd grow! But they did. SO HAPPY!! :mrgreen:

Now off to bed with me!!! Nighty night...
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I could not be more pleased!!! Today while watering lightly (before the storm arrives tonight) I spotted tiny little leaves on my Raspberry Shortcake plant, the only red one out there, and the only one I really REALLY wanted to order, but they're all out of them now and I thought I'd have to wait until next year to get one again. But no! There it was bravely shoving out a few little leaves from an otherwise dead looking stick! SO HAPPY about that!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I also planted several more squash: zucchini, a couple of crookneck, and a wild-looking patty pan. Actually they are all pretty wild in their own ways. It's 1:30 AM and I'm off to bed "early" tonight. Lots to do tomorrow. :mrgreen:

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Re: Letting go

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I actually went to SLEEP at 2 am (THANK GOD!!) and slept like a log, BUT woke up at 2pm today anyways. :cry: I am working on it.

BUT I also wanted to seriously set out before you a real problem that I am having re: my grandson's wedding vs my own self image and limited weight loss at this time. The weight loss IS self-evident. I don't know how much I actually weigh ATM in poundage, but I am still massively overweight (or more probably still in the morbidly obese range: 40 BMI or more) since I DO NOT WEIGH MYSELF, but can see the immense improvement by looking in the mirror and feel it in my lighter step and contours of my body, which change daily. Hence, my constant NSVs, which for me equals (and in fact, is more accurate than) a scale's weight in lbs./kgs.!

BUT I'm STILL massively overweight. VERY massively overweight! I'm not even to "obese" yet (BMI of 30-39) and these ornery people have not seen me in YEARS! The fight for my grandson's custody when he was SO little (and my little ♥Cuddlebug♥) was FIERCE!!! And it took several YEARS to finally complete and MANY trips to the courtroom. It began when THIS FAMILY kidnapped him when he was a mere 4 months old and ran him off to the state north of this one and GAVE HIM to this couple because they were unacceptable to their state to become adoptive parents to anyone and had exhausted all attempts to find a child to adopt. He was only 4 months old. I got our district attorney to FORCE them to return him at that point and got custody for my older son. Again, my idiot son "went back with" the mother, she cheated on him, abandoned both of them (grandson and my son), and then older DS abandoned his son to me and left the state with a carnival. :x I fought the other family for the next 3 yrs. like a determined tiger for her cub, but was a working parent of two others at the time (DS was 6 at the time, my DD only 16), had some extra money to fight them, but not the millions that were being siphoned to this cause by the bio-great-grandmother. She is a truly insane and abusive woman, but with massive amounts of money left to her by an also insane and abusive husband when he (blessedly) died. This couple had abused DGS's bio-grandmother (mother's mother) in hideously and creative ways, which the bio-mother's mother then learned, began to drink excessively, and then used these tactics on my DGS's bio-mother on a daily basis. DGS's mother still bears the horrible twisted burn scars on her arms from her own abuse when a pan of boiling water thrown at her by her mother in a drunken rage. My own abuse pales in comparison. :cry:

This woman (DGS's bio-mother) has vacillated between wanting DGS desperately and rejecting him completely. The man who finally got custody from the courts and adopted my DGS had to previously spend 8 yrs. in intense counseling and yet still is an emotional bully. His wife is a kind woman, almost too gentle, and a real wet noodle. I witnessed this at the dinner table where we all sat on a visit to my DGS (then about 8 yrs. old). She had the nerve to attempt to join the conversation with a quiet comment and was SILENCED by him with a heavy fist hitting the table: "I WAS TALKING! SHUT UP!!!" She did - immediately and sheepishly. My God. This was who the courts allowed to be my DGS's adoptive father?? :roll: :x But they had won, and even with an "open adoption", we only visited rarely.

What this led to was as a teenager, my beautiful DGS, my Cuddlebug, was thrown into locked mental health facilities for even a slight deviation from what these "parents" declared as "normal", and this happened over and over again. That seems to be the actual punishment they used for a normal teen's acting out, and he was a straight A student! But IF he did something they considered out of step (according to them), they called a counselor/psychiatrist, and DGS was tossed into heavier and heavier treatments and even locked facilities. As he spiraled deeper and deeper into this mental abyss with trip after trip to the locked facility, I heard not one word about it. Finally, the adoptive "mother" sent me a note, asking ME for help with her locked up "son". "He's troubled.", she said in this brief note. Actually, he had just attempted suicide!!!! :? When he came here last summer, he explained it to me, step by step. It was very violent, and it should have killed him, but somehow he was spared...unscathed!! :roll: :!: ;)

Then he found the Catholic church (adoptive mother is Unitarian and father is nothing religious at all) and decided to become a cloistered monk with a vow of silence. Pretty radical plans for a young man in his mid-20s if you ask me. But in the meantime, he met his wife-to-be, they fell in love, and will be married soon. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Happy ending to this very nasty story!!! AND he has sent me an invitation WITH a separate invitation to the reception afterwards (a special honor for his "Grammy"..ME!).

But all the rest of them there will be those old people who opposed me and used their money to steal my 3-yr. old DGS away from me after a strong fight from me and then to ruin him to the point of attempted suicide! Thank God they failed. They should have remained a childless couple and left us alone. But that's not the story, is it?

Last night, my own DS was trying to put together his new office chair, made in China, just like the last two he's had, but the screws would NOT fit into the chair arm, try as he might to get them to...and (as a true autistic) he got frustrated with it! REALLY frustrated!! And he blurted out: "IF YOU WANT TO, WE CAN JUST SKIP THE WEDDING, TOO!!" I asked him, "Don't you want to go?" and he told me that he really didn't care, that he would go if I went, but it didn't matter to him. "I just worry about you and how much money this will cost you. And what about our WOE??" Point taken. Got me to thinking...!

I've had my own doubts about being up there with a huge group of strange people who know each other, but not the two of us. DGS will be busy with getting married. And we are NOT Catholic, either. In fact, Catholicism is quite foreign to us. We planned nothing yet except booking the room for our one-day stay, and don't even plan to stay much after the reception before taking the long 12-hr. drive home. I want to be there, and yet I don't want to, either. The idea of getting dressed up for a wedding with a bunch of strangers (or worse yet, for the original players who adopted him through such guile and sly behavior) who feel close to my grandson and/or his wife-to-be leaves me colder than ice!

BUT to leave him to these horrible people alone again brings up HUGE guilt feelings of ME abandoning him to them again that a nice gift would never equal. Granted, the first time when he was 3 was at the direction of a court order for me to relinquish him to them...OR keep fighting and eventually lose my own children's custody (as was stated by my own attorney) and go bankrupt fighting them, with all that money behind them! They won because I let go, because I had to. They and their attorney's forced me to by threatening my own kids and home, and they were not nice about it.

So I had no choice then, but I do have a choice now. I am still shamed by my current size. In a year, this would not even be an issue. I WOULD GO, just to thumb my nose at the "adoptive" people there, while they would be thumbing their noses back at me. But NOW? I don't know.

===================================(later)

I spoke with DS. He said he would (reluctantly) go with me to the wedding, BUT...! Do I really want to go all the way up there AND spend all that money? AND he wants me to call cousin R and start up a connection with them. The cousin R's household (as a group) love to go boating and party, and that DOES appeal to DS. And it's a real family connection for him. And for me, too. More of a re-connect for me, but the first real accepting family ties for DS - BOTH sides! All he's ever known is a thinly-veiled rejection from family other than me. It's important. And pleasurable for all concerned (I hope).

So I am going to call DGS and let him know that we are "unable to make it due to DS needing to work that weekend" (DS says, "Blame it on me."), but I'm buying DGS the really nice cookware set that they wanted on their registry and will send it directly to them. Then I'll call cousin R and try to remake the connection there. I hope my female cousin B hasn't moved away by now and that I can talk to her about our respective and abusive mothers again. I like B a lot, too. And last Oct., all were within a 30 min. car ride away. NICE! :mrgreen:

==================================(even later...and case solved!!)

I love how this works!! DS and I are so alike in our thinking! We are skipping the wedding using DS's job as the excuse. That way, all of my former enemies can have their day at the wedding comfortably (as can DGS), DS and I don't have to dress up in expensive clothing that won't fit us in another year anyway, we can send a very nice gift to the bride and groom, and we can continue with our WOEs happily and uninterrupted right here at home. We can visit them up there in maybe a year or so possibly. We will call them soon and let them know what's happened since we already RSVP-ed "yes". I'll get their address at that time and send their gift to them directly. I can easily afford that.

I'll make that phone call to cousin R soon, too. But for right now, my garden awaits. :mrgreen: I watered a LOT of those empty pots yesterday - plus the downpour last night. I can fill them today with squash and tomato plants...and maybe that little struggling RED RASPBERRY plant!! I am SO GRATEFUL to this forum to be able to come here and sit and write out my dilemmas and then LET IT GO! I feel like I'm a better (and more reasonable) person for it, both to others and myself. No guilt, just self-preservation and a better view of the true situation. It should be a very busy day for my dear grandson, and my gift to him and his bride-to-be should hopefully assure him that I think of him often and with the utmost love still. He is moving onto an entirely new part of his life, a more wholesome part hopefully. And I am always here for him to come to and/or call.

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It's 2:30am again. I need to sleep so I can work in the garden tomorrow. I'm setting my alarm for 8am, plenty of time to wake up and get going on toting the straw and more potting soil back home and getting the rest of the raised beds and 30 gallon pots filled up and planted with something. On Monday when the big heat arrives, at least the garden will be planted; not in the area it needs to be in, but I can move the pots later. I need DS to rototill the area between the raised beds and the back fence, for that is where the tomato and squash plants will be...in the direct daily scorching heat, well watered and happily soaking up the sun's rays. Much else will be either sheltered or semi-sheltered. Much planning needed! And lots of pots that need to be filled!!...before Monday and the 98ºF on that day!!!

I showed DS what I'm planning on doing and when and why. I have it all written down. I believe he understands what I have in mind more. We will see. He also showed me a video of a play done at his convention tonight. When I suggested that he go back to college and take his Theater class over, he jumped at the chance. We're going in on Monday to talk to the DSS people (Disabled Student Services - due to son's autism) since they can make the initial sign-up easier for him. The last time he was in college I was still working! I retired in 2013, so it's been a while. I'm excited for him. I can help him more this time. :mrgreen:

I need to rest up before tomorrow. I'm not too sleepy yet, but should be once my head hits the pillow. Pleasant dreams!

Honeybera
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Re: Letting go

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DS got the rototilling done...thank heavens! We dug up a LOT of old bamboo roots and tossed them away. I'm now to rake it all out smoothly, but only got as far as hauling the rakes and other tools out of the garage. Nothing got planted...yet. The Straw Bale Guy is closed tomorrow, but there's always Monday (at 96ºF forecasted) and Tuesday is even worse (99º!!) :cry: I have to get up EARLIER in the day...in fact, the crack of dawn would be ideal!! :|

I'm going to go eat right now, try to relax enough to sleep after taking a Sleep Aid. But I got up today at 3pm after an 11-hr. sleep. I have to sleep at NIGHT or else no garden for me, and that will never do! Maybe setting an alarm would help. Roust myself out of bed at 6 or 7 am, don my daily muu-muu after my shower and head for the backyard and all that raking. AND planting! Oh, I need to spray that birdbath, too, and the wind is calmest in the early hours.

Then I need to be up again on Monday EARLY and go pick up the straw needed to spread over there where I'm going to put the BIG 30-gallon pots for squash and tomatoes right up against the fence in the hottest area of the yard, sitting on weed-deterrent straw. Perfect! "Tomato Alley"! :lol: Squash and tomatoes, all lined up in the heat: they'll love it!! Top the tomatoes with straw for moisture conservation and a nice sturdy support and there you go! Squash is even easier: push in a seed, water, and wait. Peppers can go into the raised beds. My yard is shaping up!

Nearly 8pm. I'd better get my OMAD (one meal a day) now. I haven't even had my Bulletproof coffee yet! Maybe tonight just the "Bulletproof" without the coffee! :lol: Have a great weekend!

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Re: Letting go

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I hope it's ok to talk about working in my garden and weird sleep hours and such, but it's all about my healing/weight loss process. I am trying to rectify so many things that have plagued me from my rotten childhood, like the constant ridicule and shaming. I can see now more clearly that it wasn't me at all, but rather MD's skewed mental processes and her overwhelming but petty jealousies. She was a real pip.

But now it's all up to me to fix it, and I am really trying to! I don't need to be overweight anymore, and I figure that that goal should take about a year more or so. I find no problem with that because I LOVE this WOE!!! I plan to do it for the rest of my life. I'm beginning to find a real joy in life: my garden and growing things, even finally cleaning up my house. DS's room is still in chaos, but not as bad as it was, so...improvement, and that's all I ask really. I do insist that when I finish one project that he follows suit, like when I have the tools in one place and he uses them, to put them back where he found them. This may seem like "well, DUH!" to most people, but to me it was a hard learned lesson. MD did do everything for me, never trained me (KINDLY!) to do anything...and I mean ANYTHING!! I did learn to dry the dishes on rare occasions, but we had a dishwasher, and then she'd put them away, too. (I think my father may have intervened and made her give me something to do!) She made my bed, did the laundry, did every meal, all the shopping and buying of clothing and groceries, and cleaned the house spotlessly. If I even attempted to pitch in and help out, she'd come unglued!! I knew I could actually get a beating that way, so I just kept quiet. It was HER house, NOT mine, and she made that quite clear, but when I got married (MARRIED!!!!) at barely 18, I was totally lost as to what to do.

In fact, when I got married, I thought that I would FEEL differently and was shocked when I didn't. I was still ME, only this time I was all alone while hubby worked and I was bored out of my mind. Somehow, I knew how to cook, and I knew that I was supposed to clean up the dishes, etc. I once even asked my DH when he laid his week's wages on the table: "Is that a lot of money or a little money?" because I just didn't know.

I now know that I needed to get a job myself. But then I had no idea. I got married because I thought you were supposed to by my ripe old age of 18. I truly believe that if I had had a job, I would have begun to feel my own independence and dumped the clown (DH) that I was with. I got married to him because he asked me! :roll: And once I was married, I didn't know how to get out of it. And once married, MD slunk away and I heard NOTHING from her for a full 6 months when I called her!! She had been my unwilling caretaker, NOT MOTHER, for all my life and once I was dumped on my DH, she figured that that was IT! In fact, her response when DH asked for my hand in marriage, she laughed and shouted out, "Oh, THANK GOD!! YOU take her off our hands!!!" Man, did that hurt and embarrass me! Not very nice. But then again, she never was when it came to me.

I dreamed of her last night. :cry: I have a birdbath that I'm going to spray with a sort of clear paint before filling it with birdseed so I can watch the birds eat there from my Window on the World + I have my other birdbath in front of the WOW for water. I dreamed that MD was there, and once I began to spray this new birdbath, I found that they'd given me the wrong can and it was a deep forest green. I thought, "OK. I guess it'll just be green then." :| But MD picked the wet, dripping with paint birdbath up, brought it inside my room, and set the wet, drippy FOREST GREEN birdbath on the light beige carpet, ruining the carpet, with a cooing, "Oh! Didn't you want it there? I thought you did!" and then a happy little smirk, like, "What are you going to do NOW??" :lol: She is SO MEAN that way!! And this would be typical behavior for her. She revels in ruining anything I try to do, like how she used to destroy my model cars and other projects proudly displayed on my dresser when I went to school. I got the money for them by babysitting around the neighborhood. Many, MANY times I'd find them after school in my trash can. "Oh, the vacuum knocked them off the dresser." THAT MANY TIMES??? :roll: :cry: AND I'd find them smashed into smithereens!! I finally just quit making them. :cry:

Once, when "helping" me to move right after my 2nd divorce in 1971 when I was 25, she first went from room to room throwing the bagged garbage all back over the floor as my impatient-to-get-moving father stayed with me in the front room, talking to me. When I went into the bedrooms and saw what she'd maliciously done, she had gone into the living room and began picking the stuffing out of my couch. The tiny hole in the couch's arm had been only dime sized, but she made it about a 4" hole!! This was NOT a dream! And then impatient daddy insisted that we leave THEN, with all the junk thrown over the floor. She admitted to doing the garbage tossing and pulling the stuffing out of the couch, but who was to stop her? My father? Not on your life! As he once told me, "I've got to live with her, Honey!" - so no help was coming there! And so he let this go, too.

Her excuse? "Well, it doesn't matter. It wasn't that clean when you moved in. And your couch? BUY A NEW ONE!" I was on Welfare at the time with little to no money, especially for a new couch! And although I'd previously tidied up the place, I was forced to leave it like that in a mess and forgo my much-needed cleaning deposit. She never missed an opportunity to shame and/or ridicule and/or hurt me. That is, up until about 2-3 yrs. ago when I just QUIT going to see her, save for this last trip over there for her birthday in April. That decision has really helped me to heal up, too. I didn't bring her a card or cake or anything...just a visit. And she actually seemed glad to see me...or maybe it was just surprise.

She still could not keep herself from throwing a few zingers anyway about my weight, how bad I looked, gossip re: others in the family, etc. I knew I was on this WOE and finally had an answer to my weight problem, so it didn't really bother me. But I decided that I need NOT ever go back. It only took my visit of ONE HOUR. I happily skipped Mother's Day, too. Let DB do the trek over there with flowers and cake - the $700,000 estate of hers that he controls with an iron fist has paid him well for those duties until she's dead. It's easy for me to let go of that one!!

I have one blessing in my life: my DS that I love most dearly!! He is my family, and I am his. By his association with me, he is also an outcast. (It used to be DD and ODS, too, but she's figuring that if she "likes" them, then it will make my DS's and my shunning more pronounced. :x ) When I hear about "family" and how important they are supposed to be on ads on TV, my blood curdles!! That dream last night reminded me of how devious and just plain MEAN MD is!!! Shall I try, try again to be close to her, hoping against hope that she'll turn into a REAL human being instead of the monster that she's been to me for all of my 71 yrs.??? Nope. I don't think so. :lol:

BTW, she HATES HATES HATES my dear ♥cousin R♥ and that whole group, who are my mother's sister's kids (my late Aunt J who committed suicide), and they hate MD with an equal passion. These grudges go WAY BACK to MD's childhood, her adoption (Aunt J was NOT adopted by my grandparents and stayed close instead to her bio-mother), and even the sad demise of my own and R's bio-grandmother on Christmas Day. (R offered his bio-GM a home with him for FREE, but MD insisted that she be in a nursing home instead so MD could be in control of the finances. And when our bio-GM was sick in the hospital on Christmas, R went to see her there, but MD showed up and sent him away, then left bio-GM alone shortly afterwards to go back to the Xmas party, and bio-GM died alone.)

I've always been close with cousin R, so DS and I would like to get together with them, but I'm dragging my feet somewhat in case they reject us, too. I'm just being gun-shy, I think, due to MD and her treatment of me. I love my cousins as much as MD hates them. I need to just push myself in that case. They seem to be a really fun group. I just hope that they can accept us...despite MD and her despicable influence throughout the family. She's really hateful!! The first thing cousin R said to me when I finally found him was, "Wow. You sound just like your mother!" Horror of horrors, NO!! :shock: :o

Let MD rely on my DB instead, who has married a woman as devious and mean as MD! :lol: My SIL makes no bones about HATING MD!!! But MD knows that IF she does anything to irritate SIL, the ax may fall and sever her relationship with PRECIOUS DB forever, and then she'd be ALL ALONE and she fears that most of all.

Hm?? "All alone??" Who does that sound like?? :? Oh wait! ME!! :lol: But over the years, I have learned how to live with it, ("Honey"), and KNOW how to cope with it. It may have taken numerous sessions with an army of Ts, but thank God, I AM HERE!!! And I enjoy my life and my DS and my dogs and my garden and watching my birdbaths and watching my new plants raise their heads, ready for LIFE! So there, MD!! :P You did NOT win after all. AND you've lost a daughter, too, for all your meanness!!! You sit all alone in your supposed $15,000/mo. room with servants/caretakers surrounding you, but with no happiness and no spark or spirit to your life. How sad for you. But I WILL NOT return for more of the same nonsense that you so happily dish out to me whenever I come there. IT IS DONE!!!

Ooh, that was purging!!! ;)

'Nuff said! Today I'm cleaning off the old Winner's Only computer desk (the first piece of furniture I bought while working as a bus driver :mrgreen: ) so DS and I can sell it. It's REALLY hot outside, but in the house? 78ºF...all summer long! :P YAY!!!

Honeybera
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